A marker takes the colour of the side it landed on — blue toward the left pole,
orange toward the right. The shape says which tradition; the colour never does.
The rails draw the Wesleyan and Methodist family, the churches that came from John Wesley, and confessional Presbyterians, the bodies that still subscribe the Westminster Confession. The Nazarenes and the Salvation Army belong to the first; the larger mainline churches on both sides sit elsewhere on this map.
What they share
Both baptise the children of members, and both land in the sacramental band at the Table: the bread and the cup give what they stand for.
Neither sorts the world into Israel and the church. Both land in the one-people band, so no rapture before a tribulation is taught from either pulpit.
Neither congregation stands alone. A Methodist church belongs to a conference, a Presbyterian one to a presbytery, and in both the minister answers to a body outside the building.
Both receive the ancient creeds, both hold justification by faith, and both ask a minister to be trained, examined and ordained by his peers before he preaches.
Where they differ
Both sides below are stated the way people who hold them would state them. Landing in
the same band is not agreeing, and landing in different ones is not a verdict.
Wesley's word for God's first move is prevenient grace, the grace that goes before. It reaches every person, not only some, and restores enough freedom that the person can answer at all; nobody can say the offer never came. The answer is then genuinely his, and it can be no. That is why a Methodist pulpit warns as much as it invites, and why this family talks about growing in holiness over a lifetime.
Presbyterian
firmly monergist
Presbyterians answer from Westminster's third chapter, on God's decree. Before the world was made God chose a people, and the grace that raises the spiritually dead makes the unwilling willing, freely willing rather than dragged. Because the work is His from the start, the finishing is His too, and nobody is told the decision was theirs to make. A Presbyterian minister answering a frightened member points away from the strength of their grip and back to who did the choosing.
In plain wordsThis is the Calvinist and Arminian argument under two denominational names: does God settle the answer, or does the person give it?
Methodism never turned cessationist, which is unusual among the older Protestant traditions. Wesley argued that the miraculous gifts faded because Christians' love had grown cold, not because God had withdrawn them. A Methodist service is not a Pentecostal one and tongues are uncommon, but prayer for healing is at home and the door was never shut. Pentecostalism grew out of this family, and the Methodist habit of expecting God to act is part of why it could.
Presbyterian
cessationist
Cessationist, the word for the Presbyterian position, is a claim about revelation and not about God's power. Westminster's opening paragraph says the former ways God used to reveal His will have now ceased: everything needed is written down. He has not stopped healing; He has stopped adding to Scripture. A Presbyterian congregation prays hard for the sick and expects an answer, and nobody stands up claiming a fresh word from God.
In plain wordsMethodists leave the door open to tongues and prophecy; Presbyterians hold that God's speaking in Scripture is finished.
Wesley was an Anglican priest who never left, and he sent his American followers a prayer book he had edited himself. Methodist worship leans liturgical: a printed order, the church year, prayers the church has used for centuries, and over the top of that extempore prayer, made up on the spot, and famously loud singing. Charles Wesley wrote thousands of hymns, and generations learned what they believe by singing them.
Presbyterian
free-leaning in worship
Presbyterians look the more formal of the two and sit on the free side of the rail, which is not a mistake. The Westminster Assembly replaced the Book of Common Prayer with a Directory, advice rather than words to read aloud, and nothing enters a service unless Scripture calls for it. That rule has a name of its own, the regulative principle, and it is why there is no book in the pew. The minister writes every prayer, and some congregations sing only psalms.
In plain wordsThe Methodist service follows a book and the Presbyterian one does not, which is the opposite of how they look.
Scripture is the rule, and the Articles of Religion, the creeds and the experience of the church are consulted without being set beside it. Methodists shorten this to Scripture, tradition, reason and experience, four words often misread as four equal authorities when the tradition means one rule and three helps in reading it. Doctrine and practice are gathered in a Book of Discipline, which a General Conference can revise, so a Methodist can point to where a teaching was decided and when.
Presbyterian
Scripture alone
Scripture alone, which does not mean Scripture on its own. Westminster makes Scripture the supreme judge of every controversy and says plainly that councils may err and have erred, so the creeds are read with respect and never as a second bench. A minister subscribes the Confession because he holds that it states what Scripture states, and he can be called before a court of his peers to answer for what he teaches. Changing the Confession is deliberately hard and is rarely attempted.
In plain wordsBoth start from the Bible. Methodists give tradition, reason and experience a named place in reading it.
Beyond the compass
The Compass measures six things, not everything. These differences are real and
sit outside all six.
Bishops, elders, and how your pastor arrived
Methodist government is connexional and, in most of the family, episcopal: bishops, annual conferences and a general conference, with local churches belonging to a connexion rather than owning themselves, and the building often held in trust for it. Ministers are itinerant, appointed to a church by a bishop, a habit that began with circuit riders who stayed nowhere long. Presbyterian government is named after its officer. A session of elders runs each congregation, a presbytery of ministers and elders covers a region, a general assembly sits above that, and there is no bishop. A congregation calls its own minister, and the presbytery examines and installs him.
How they came to differ
The Presbyterian line is older. It runs from Geneva through John Knox to Scotland, and it was written down in England during a civil war: Parliament called 121 ministers to Westminster Abbey in 1643, they moved into the Jerusalem Chamber that October, and the Confession was finished in 1646. Scots and Scots-Irish immigrants carried it to America.
Methodism began inside the Church of England and did not mean to leave. John Wesley was an Anglican priest. From 1739 he preached in fields to people who would not go into a church, organised them into societies and weekly classes, and kept insisting they were not a separate church.
America settled that for him. After the revolution few Anglican clergy were left to give the sacraments, so in 1784 Wesley cut his own church's Thirty-Nine Articles down to twenty-four for the Americans, dropping predestination and whatever was peculiarly English. That Christmas, in Baltimore, they organised as a church and added a twenty-fifth article recognising the new United States.
Walking in
In a Methodist church there is usually a printed order to follow, prayers the church has used for centuries, the colour of the season on the pulpit, then hymn singing with the volume up. Many Methodist churches invite anyone who loves Christ to the Table. In a confessional Presbyterian church there is no book in the pew: every prayer is the minister's own, the sermon is long and is the main event, and elders carry the cup along the rows.
Did you know?
Both names began as descriptions rather than banners. Presbyterian comes straight from the Greek word for elder, the officer who runs the church. Methodist started as a jeer at the methodical habits of the small Oxford club the Wesley brothers belonged to, and the insult stuck.
What we read
Methodist
John Wesley, The Duty of Constant Communion
Why this tradition sits at the sacramental end.
Methodist
The Methodist Articles of Religion (1784)
Wesley's edit of the Thirty-Nine Articles.
Methodist
John Wesley, Free Grace (1739)
The sermon against predestination.
Presbyterian
The Westminster Confession of Faith (1646)
Chapter 1 on authority and on revelation ceasing, chapter 3 on God's decree, chapter 21 on worship.
Presbyterian
The Westminster Directory for Public Worship (1645)
What replaced the Prayer Book: advice, not a script.